logiclife
08-20 04:33 PM
Some member has lost the opportunity to file 485 before Aug 17th coz the employer and the lawyer didnt respond and responded after Aug 17th. (How convenient. A lot of employers suddenly found vacation time to take between July 17 and August 17th. Suddenly, between July 17 and Aug 17, the voicemails stopped working and the calls never got returned. Nice. )
The whole thing is here : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12576
This is something for everyone to watch and learn:
I tried to contact the attorney so badly until Aug 16th, but he never responded. I was able to get hold of him only on Aug 17th. I guess he was directed by my employer so.
The cardinal rule of working with untrustworthy employers is that you need to use ONLY YOUR OWN LAWYER.
The lawyer must be having you as client and also must not have your employer as his client for other cases matters. ONLY then, the lawyer will be working in YOUR interest and not in your employer's interest.
I think people browsing this site by this time, must have learned one thing and I sure have said that a million times.
IF YOU CANNOT TRUST YOUR EMPLOYER 100% THEN YOU NEED TO SHELL SOME $$$ AND HIRE YOUR OWN LAWYER FOR ALL LEGAL MATTERS AND ALL PAPERWORK, FILING, PETITIONING ETC. EVEN H1 RENEWALS.
At the end of the day, between your first day in United States and the day you get your GC, it will cost you nearly 10,000 to have your own lawyer and never use the company-provided free lawyer.
Having your own lawyer means:
1. You pay him, you employ him, he is accountable to you, not your employer.
2. He/she works in your interest, not the employer's interest.
3. If your employer is not co-operating, you will know right away.
4. Your employer would have to come clean and truthful about his intentions of not filing 485. When you have company's lawyer, then the company's lawyer is not going to listen to you. WHY? Because you are not the one paying him. Your employer is.
5. Full transparency and visibility, whenever anything is filed, receipt is issued, RFE comes, reply to RFE goes, etc. With employer's lawyer, you have 0 visibility and you will land in situations mentioned above.
The money you think you are saving with getting a "Free" lawyer is going to cost you much more. The employers are not stupid to provide you free lawyers. The reason they tend to have free lawyers for you is so that they can have total control over your immigration case. Its "Free" for you, but not really. Coz at the end of the day, it costs 10 times more in terms of lost opportunities and delayed immigration. The employers are in the business of doing business and for them, providing you a free lawyer is COST OF DOING BUSINESS because by incurring that cost, they maximize THEIR OWN OPPORTUNITIES to retain you on their payroll for the longest possible time. You may think you are saving money, but this isnt about money.
Its about opportunities and the battle for most opportunities for oneself and the least opportunities for the other guy.
So when you end up spending 10,000 out of pocket on lawyer's fees for H1 renewals, labor, 140, 485 etc, consider that as an opportunity cost.. Just like you need to spend $500 per month on gas and car to be able to get to work, you need to spend a few thousand in order to be able to get opportunities you really want in this country.
One more thing before you go out and hire your own lawyer:
After reading this, if ever you are in search of hiring your own lawyer for immigration needs, make sure that the lawyer has never done any business with your employer. Otherwise it defeats the purpose. You need to ask your new attorney, if he has done or planning to do business with your employer. If he has, or plans to, then dont hire him. Why? Because its obviously conflict of interest. You are asking your lawyer to work in your interest (faster and mistake-free GC filing) and your employer wants to opposite. Its is unethical for lawyers to work for 2 clients with conflicting interests. Also, ask your lawyer before hiring that YOU NEED HIS FULL DISCLOSURE if he plans to do business with your employer. That way, you know that your lawyer is acting in your interest without any possible conflicts. The problem with getting your employer's recommended lawyer is that your employer pays him nearly 50-60 thousand dollars a year in fees, you are a $1000 a year client. Obviously, at the nudging of your employer, suddenly your 485 might get screwed up by your lawyer.
The whole thing is here : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12576
This is something for everyone to watch and learn:
I tried to contact the attorney so badly until Aug 16th, but he never responded. I was able to get hold of him only on Aug 17th. I guess he was directed by my employer so.
The cardinal rule of working with untrustworthy employers is that you need to use ONLY YOUR OWN LAWYER.
The lawyer must be having you as client and also must not have your employer as his client for other cases matters. ONLY then, the lawyer will be working in YOUR interest and not in your employer's interest.
I think people browsing this site by this time, must have learned one thing and I sure have said that a million times.
IF YOU CANNOT TRUST YOUR EMPLOYER 100% THEN YOU NEED TO SHELL SOME $$$ AND HIRE YOUR OWN LAWYER FOR ALL LEGAL MATTERS AND ALL PAPERWORK, FILING, PETITIONING ETC. EVEN H1 RENEWALS.
At the end of the day, between your first day in United States and the day you get your GC, it will cost you nearly 10,000 to have your own lawyer and never use the company-provided free lawyer.
Having your own lawyer means:
1. You pay him, you employ him, he is accountable to you, not your employer.
2. He/she works in your interest, not the employer's interest.
3. If your employer is not co-operating, you will know right away.
4. Your employer would have to come clean and truthful about his intentions of not filing 485. When you have company's lawyer, then the company's lawyer is not going to listen to you. WHY? Because you are not the one paying him. Your employer is.
5. Full transparency and visibility, whenever anything is filed, receipt is issued, RFE comes, reply to RFE goes, etc. With employer's lawyer, you have 0 visibility and you will land in situations mentioned above.
The money you think you are saving with getting a "Free" lawyer is going to cost you much more. The employers are not stupid to provide you free lawyers. The reason they tend to have free lawyers for you is so that they can have total control over your immigration case. Its "Free" for you, but not really. Coz at the end of the day, it costs 10 times more in terms of lost opportunities and delayed immigration. The employers are in the business of doing business and for them, providing you a free lawyer is COST OF DOING BUSINESS because by incurring that cost, they maximize THEIR OWN OPPORTUNITIES to retain you on their payroll for the longest possible time. You may think you are saving money, but this isnt about money.
Its about opportunities and the battle for most opportunities for oneself and the least opportunities for the other guy.
So when you end up spending 10,000 out of pocket on lawyer's fees for H1 renewals, labor, 140, 485 etc, consider that as an opportunity cost.. Just like you need to spend $500 per month on gas and car to be able to get to work, you need to spend a few thousand in order to be able to get opportunities you really want in this country.
One more thing before you go out and hire your own lawyer:
After reading this, if ever you are in search of hiring your own lawyer for immigration needs, make sure that the lawyer has never done any business with your employer. Otherwise it defeats the purpose. You need to ask your new attorney, if he has done or planning to do business with your employer. If he has, or plans to, then dont hire him. Why? Because its obviously conflict of interest. You are asking your lawyer to work in your interest (faster and mistake-free GC filing) and your employer wants to opposite. Its is unethical for lawyers to work for 2 clients with conflicting interests. Also, ask your lawyer before hiring that YOU NEED HIS FULL DISCLOSURE if he plans to do business with your employer. That way, you know that your lawyer is acting in your interest without any possible conflicts. The problem with getting your employer's recommended lawyer is that your employer pays him nearly 50-60 thousand dollars a year in fees, you are a $1000 a year client. Obviously, at the nudging of your employer, suddenly your 485 might get screwed up by your lawyer.
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desi3933
03-15 02:57 PM
Thanks.
So employer has to inform USCIS about EAD use. But in this case (and termination) the actual H1b cancellation is USCIS decision ?
(The pdf does not state what action USCIS will take)
Incorrect, again!
Employer is not required to inform about EAD usage. On the contrary, Employer has to inform about discontinuation of H-1B for that employee. That will absolve employer H-1B employer for any condition or payment for wages for conditions such as unproductive time (aka bench).
There is no regulation that requires employer to inform USCIS when employment (and I-9) is filled due to EAD, Green Card, or US citizenship.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
So employer has to inform USCIS about EAD use. But in this case (and termination) the actual H1b cancellation is USCIS decision ?
(The pdf does not state what action USCIS will take)
Incorrect, again!
Employer is not required to inform about EAD usage. On the contrary, Employer has to inform about discontinuation of H-1B for that employee. That will absolve employer H-1B employer for any condition or payment for wages for conditions such as unproductive time (aka bench).
There is no regulation that requires employer to inform USCIS when employment (and I-9) is filled due to EAD, Green Card, or US citizenship.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
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ktroche
11-01 12:03 AM
Sounds familiar. Family friendsfailed to file for an I94 extension on time. I believe they are here on a tourists VISA. Their VISAs are valid for 5 more years. They have not been expired for more than 180 days (right now around 120). How "automatic" is their return I94 if they leave and come back? We are willing to sponsor their return and have financial means as necessary. Argentina is their birth country. Help!!
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anand2007
07-16 10:11 PM
you can't file 2 concurrent i-485's with same names. But, on your AOS/485 application your spouse can be listed as beneficiary and Your spouse in her applications need to choose consular processing while filing I-140 or vice versa.this way you can use the best of both applications.
Has anyone and their spouse both filed for 485s while listing each other as beneficiary as well?
Is this possible?
Has anyone and their spouse both filed for 485s while listing each other as beneficiary as well?
Is this possible?
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puskeygadha
06-02 09:03 PM
I am a client of fragemonon and what does it mean now
my case was audited on may 21. They were saying there are 10,000
cases they filed and all are audited. What is supervised recruitment
?????
are we doomed?
my case was audited on may 21. They were saying there are 10,000
cases they filed and all are audited. What is supervised recruitment
?????
are we doomed?
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jonty_11
05-05 05:57 PM
I think this kind of question can be best answered by USCIS.....
So when u call next ask this...
So when u call next ask this...
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Brightsider
11-08 07:11 PM
Permit me to differ....with ND Bhatt.
With all due respect, I would like to point out that visas to dependents may not be the issue. The report includes all pending I-485 cases. It does not differentiate between principal applicants and derivative-dependents.
The problem must be elsewhere. Possibly, they may not have released complete and accurate figures, though I would hate to believe that. For a governmental agency that is answerable to Congress, it will be difficult for them to obfuscate beyond a point.
You are right on the 245 (i) issue. I do know a friend whose wife and child went to the consulate when their PDs became current. Since it was consular processing, it was not a case of I-485....they use some other form DS1030 or some such form.
That said, hang in there. Enjoy life while in the queue.
Best
With all due respect, I would like to point out that visas to dependents may not be the issue. The report includes all pending I-485 cases. It does not differentiate between principal applicants and derivative-dependents.
The problem must be elsewhere. Possibly, they may not have released complete and accurate figures, though I would hate to believe that. For a governmental agency that is answerable to Congress, it will be difficult for them to obfuscate beyond a point.
You are right on the 245 (i) issue. I do know a friend whose wife and child went to the consulate when their PDs became current. Since it was consular processing, it was not a case of I-485....they use some other form DS1030 or some such form.
That said, hang in there. Enjoy life while in the queue.
Best
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02-23 08:56 AM
it would be mentioned on the VISA. not all sub-categories of J1 are subject to HRR. hence your friends' wasn't.
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02-13 01:27 PM
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Can we have the scanned copy of this letter posted on IV's homepage? Either replace the image for Sept 18th rally or put it above it so that its the first thing people see on the homepage. After the campaign is over we can change it back to what it was.
This is in no way to undermine anything about the Sept 18th rally. I just think that this would really help inspire a lot of people.
Can we have the scanned copy of this letter posted on IV's homepage? Either replace the image for Sept 18th rally or put it above it so that its the first thing people see on the homepage. After the campaign is over we can change it back to what it was.
This is in no way to undermine anything about the Sept 18th rally. I just think that this would really help inspire a lot of people.
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10-02 02:43 PM
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08-13 12:28 AM
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09-10 06:43 AM
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hinvin66
05-13 12:24 AM
IO verbally said last week that it's approved but there is no SLUD, LUD, CPO, PDA or anything else yet.
Still waiting...
Still waiting...
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immigrationvoice1
01-10 11:49 AM
Just curious: When will USCIS process my 485?.....
.....probably we would not have an organization like this.
.....probably we would not have an organization like this.
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alterego
07-08 05:12 PM
Is that all he said? I wonder why he did not say they should be screened for their skin color, their Shakespearean English and BTW all the applications of legal residents and naturalized Citizens here who are non Europeans ought to be revisited to ensure they fit the new criteria. Perhaps actually saying that would have been too politically incorrect.
This guy is unbelievably anti-immigrant. Even many anti-immigrants feel he is too far to their right on this issue. Him in the house and Sen. Jeff Sessions in the Senate cannot be changed. They are rather openly vile, vicious and virulent in their attack of any and all immigrants.............legal or illegal. That is why they are given so much airtime on CNN with Lou Dobbs.
The real irony of it all to me is that the ancestors of many of the Mexicans (albeit illegal) immigrants crossing the southern border are indigenous people of the Americas (the new world) like Mayans and Aztecs (atleast in part). His (Tancredo's) predecessors on the other hand are "invaders" like he terms todays immigrants. I wish one day his kind of people who seem like they feel America is their divine gift from god get asked this question in a public forum.
This guy is unbelievably anti-immigrant. Even many anti-immigrants feel he is too far to their right on this issue. Him in the house and Sen. Jeff Sessions in the Senate cannot be changed. They are rather openly vile, vicious and virulent in their attack of any and all immigrants.............legal or illegal. That is why they are given so much airtime on CNN with Lou Dobbs.
The real irony of it all to me is that the ancestors of many of the Mexicans (albeit illegal) immigrants crossing the southern border are indigenous people of the Americas (the new world) like Mayans and Aztecs (atleast in part). His (Tancredo's) predecessors on the other hand are "invaders" like he terms todays immigrants. I wish one day his kind of people who seem like they feel America is their divine gift from god get asked this question in a public forum.
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ksrk
02-13 04:36 AM
Dilip,
In all your comments, you said nothing of your PD or EB category or your country of birth for that matter. It is difficult for anyone to quell your anxiety without that information. Check with your (or any) immigration attorney for a more substantial answer.
The bottom line is that a visa number should be available when it comes time to adjudicate your case, meaning that your PD should be current at the time the officer picks up your case AND a visa number available for him/her to assign to you (and your dependents, if you have any).
Else, the I-485 processing date means nothing, as has been stated by other members earlier. Yes, retrogression sucks!
In all your comments, you said nothing of your PD or EB category or your country of birth for that matter. It is difficult for anyone to quell your anxiety without that information. Check with your (or any) immigration attorney for a more substantial answer.
The bottom line is that a visa number should be available when it comes time to adjudicate your case, meaning that your PD should be current at the time the officer picks up your case AND a visa number available for him/her to assign to you (and your dependents, if you have any).
Else, the I-485 processing date means nothing, as has been stated by other members earlier. Yes, retrogression sucks!
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mambarg
07-26 12:57 PM
This person mailed on June 28 and app received on June 29 and got his notice date on July 24. Today.
I could have been with him today but for my attorney who got extremely busy and did not file my 485 with 140 and got stuck with July fiasco
I could have been with him today but for my attorney who got extremely busy and did not file my 485 with 140 and got stuck with July fiasco
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neeidd
11-09 06:06 PM
Hi ,
I am planning to use AP for re-enter to USA. Could someone please let me know the list the documents that I should carry ?
Thanks
I am planning to use AP for re-enter to USA. Could someone please let me know the list the documents that I should carry ?
Thanks
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whitecollarslave
02-10 02:20 PM
Thanks for the uplifting message. The problems are many. Lets think about the solutions.
alterego
09-15 02:12 PM
On the other hand, I think something else might happen unless things change quickly.
Growth is slowing down, budget deficit is high, the long term bond curve is inverted, all pointing to a significantly slowing economy. That does not mean recession, but it does mean more layoffs, and more difficulty in getting labor certified. That might impact how things work next year.
I used to be an optimist, but after 1 year of politics similar to my home country, I am starting to think that most of what you hear and see is hogwash.
I do not mean that nothing will change, possibly 485 filing will happen, but do not raise your hopes high on GC number increase.
That is the exact intent of their policy. They percieve that too many Indian IT folks are coming to america. If what you say happens then their intended consequence would be attained.
Just look at the whole EB thing. Why do they call it EMPLOYMENT BASED immigration then impose COUNTRY SPECIFIC quotas on it. They look at all immigration as a sort of social development. They have EB1 for the truly meritable. The rest of EB immigration/H1b system to them is a safety valve to help keep the labour markets more flexible according to the needs of the day. The 40K is mentioned in the stats. of visas issued for last year. It is on a few of the lawyer websites as well.
When they want to act on something you can see it in the speed of action.
Right now someone in EB2 category in ROW can have a green card in 1yr or less. From India, noone can say how long and probably without changes it would be about 7-10 yrs atleast.
You may be more optimistic that Indians will leave. I am under no such illusion. Having looked at the personas a lot, I tend to feel more will cling on for many many years, just waiting and hoping. Indians will do this for a few reasons. The US advantage in terms of quality of life, money, job opportunities etc is much more. Indians generally tend to put up with more C%^% if it means they can get ahead, and Indians tend to live more for tomorrow than other people ie for children, for financial security etc. These are generally good traits, in this situation they will lead to those clinging on. In a sense AC21 has in a way put us in this situation, by allowing 7th yr H1b extensions. Were that not there, your argument would have been more plausible.
Growth is slowing down, budget deficit is high, the long term bond curve is inverted, all pointing to a significantly slowing economy. That does not mean recession, but it does mean more layoffs, and more difficulty in getting labor certified. That might impact how things work next year.
I used to be an optimist, but after 1 year of politics similar to my home country, I am starting to think that most of what you hear and see is hogwash.
I do not mean that nothing will change, possibly 485 filing will happen, but do not raise your hopes high on GC number increase.
That is the exact intent of their policy. They percieve that too many Indian IT folks are coming to america. If what you say happens then their intended consequence would be attained.
Just look at the whole EB thing. Why do they call it EMPLOYMENT BASED immigration then impose COUNTRY SPECIFIC quotas on it. They look at all immigration as a sort of social development. They have EB1 for the truly meritable. The rest of EB immigration/H1b system to them is a safety valve to help keep the labour markets more flexible according to the needs of the day. The 40K is mentioned in the stats. of visas issued for last year. It is on a few of the lawyer websites as well.
When they want to act on something you can see it in the speed of action.
Right now someone in EB2 category in ROW can have a green card in 1yr or less. From India, noone can say how long and probably without changes it would be about 7-10 yrs atleast.
You may be more optimistic that Indians will leave. I am under no such illusion. Having looked at the personas a lot, I tend to feel more will cling on for many many years, just waiting and hoping. Indians will do this for a few reasons. The US advantage in terms of quality of life, money, job opportunities etc is much more. Indians generally tend to put up with more C%^% if it means they can get ahead, and Indians tend to live more for tomorrow than other people ie for children, for financial security etc. These are generally good traits, in this situation they will lead to those clinging on. In a sense AC21 has in a way put us in this situation, by allowing 7th yr H1b extensions. Were that not there, your argument would have been more plausible.
goosetavo
03-03 02:20 AM
C'mon guys, you are supposed to be the smartes of the smart here. The bill referenced above has nothing for EB-immigrants true, but it is not the Bill proposed in the US House for CIR in 2010 (it has ZERO Co-sponsors), the "good one" is HR 4321 (93 co-sponsors):
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4321ih.txt.pdf
It's the CIR ASAP act, see postings from me from last year for a summary. This bill recaptures lost GC's from the last two decades and exempts STEM degree holders from the numerical caps, read it, its all there.
Can we stop hating on illegal immigrants? Please read Pappu's postings on the subject, this whinning does nothing to help our cause. We're all in this together. The CIR ASAP Act does put more limits on H1B visas, which is unfortunate, but we need to try and negotiate here, not throw everything away.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4321ih.txt.pdf
It's the CIR ASAP act, see postings from me from last year for a summary. This bill recaptures lost GC's from the last two decades and exempts STEM degree holders from the numerical caps, read it, its all there.
Can we stop hating on illegal immigrants? Please read Pappu's postings on the subject, this whinning does nothing to help our cause. We're all in this together. The CIR ASAP Act does put more limits on H1B visas, which is unfortunate, but we need to try and negotiate here, not throw everything away.
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